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and chuck hagel. and you can not compare the first two to chuck hagel. after i watched the hearing, i remembered the lyrics to a country song. you mean i shaved my legs for this? you mean we're having this huge fight over this guy who cannot even articulate our policy towards iran? >> robert? >> let's be clear. >> this performance was not good. >> two things. i want to go about something that ana just said. if you turned on cspan and hadn't watched tv in the intervening six years, you would think we had 150,000 troops parked right now in iraq. this next defense secretary is not going to deal with iraq and the surge. this was a vanity thing for john mccain to try to prove to a former friend who disagreed with him that he was right on the surge and that chuck hagel was wrong. >> what should hagel have said? what would you have told him to say? >> i think he said correctly, we're going to let history judge iraq, because frankly chuck hagel could have said, senator mccain, i think i might have been wrong on iraq. were you wrong on iraq? here's the question.
and chuck hagel. and you can not compare the first two to chuck hagel. after i watched the hearing, i remembered the lyrics to a country song. you mean i shaved my legs for this? you mean we're having this huge fight over this guy who cannot even articulate our policy towards iran? >> robert? >> let's be clear. >> this performance was not good. >> two things. i want to go about something that ana just said. if you turned on cspan and hadn't watched tv in the intervening...
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here is chuck hagel in vietnam back in '68 when he went in. he was an enlisted soldier and rose to sergeant. a noncommissioned officer with the infantry, a grunt as they used to say in vietnam. this is navy pilot john mccain with his squadron in 1965 before he was captured. hagel made reference to the vantage point an enlisted man has in war. >> i saw it from the bottom. i saw what happens. i saw the consequences and the suffering and the horror of war. so i did question a surge. i always ask the question, is this going to be worth the sacrifice, because there will be sacrifice. in the surge case in iraq, we lost almost 1,200 dead americans during that surge and thousands of wounded. now, was it required? was it necessary? senator mccain has his own opinion on that shared by others. i'm not sure. i'm not that certain that it was required. >> you know, the horror of vietnam, where i wasn't -- i always point that out -- the guys who were, into the jungle, fighting an enemy you couldn't see. there were no p.o.w.s in the jungle wars. they didn't t
here is chuck hagel in vietnam back in '68 when he went in. he was an enlisted soldier and rose to sergeant. a noncommissioned officer with the infantry, a grunt as they used to say in vietnam. this is navy pilot john mccain with his squadron in 1965 before he was captured. hagel made reference to the vantage point an enlisted man has in war. >> i saw it from the bottom. i saw what happens. i saw the consequences and the suffering and the horror of war. so i did question a surge. i always...
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chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue, it is chuck hagel. his problem is not some tax, it is knowledge, elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as illegitimate the elected government. we know that the revolution of 2009 was part by the fact that it was a rigged election, an illegitimate economy. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he said, he was asked about the policy of containment. it was not a bad during issue. he says, yes, i support the administration's policy of containment. he then gets a note that says, i have been told that i made a mistake. of course i am not in support of that. a policy of this administration on containment is that it does not have a policy of containment. at which point democratic senator levin had to rescue him and said, in fact, the administration has a policy of containment, and it is to oppose it. he was clueless. >> colby? >> he was in the position where he had to dodge a little bit. let's go back to the exchange with senator mccain on the surge. the issue was never the su
chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue, it is chuck hagel. his problem is not some tax, it is knowledge, elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as illegitimate the elected government. we know that the revolution of 2009 was part by the fact that it was a rigged election, an illegitimate economy. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he said, he was asked about the policy of containment. it was not a bad during issue....
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the have it tree troll against chuck hagel. is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what is it that burns so deeply in john mccain today? for some reason he wants to play it again and again in iraq and afterno afghanistan and again in iran. we look at the resentment burning in john mccain's heart. it's not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stay mccain's reputation in 2000 but a guy who fear and rallied against wounds just like he did. chuck hagel, a nightmare, by the way, whose flashbacks must haunt still the heart still of john sydney mccain. both are msnbc analysts. both of you, sir, and lady, are younger than me, but i must tell you i'm absolutely convinced we're watching a flashback. watch this. he did a long angry windup before he launched into his first so-called question which was really an indictment. it included putdowns as well as references to vietnam. let's listen. >> in january of 2007 in a rather bizarre exchange with secretary rice in the foreign relations co
the have it tree troll against chuck hagel. is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what is it that burns so deeply in john mccain today? for some reason he wants to play it again and again in iraq and afterno afghanistan and again in iran. we look at the resentment burning in john mccain's heart. it's not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stay mccain's reputation in 2000 but a guy who fear and rallied against wounds just like he did. chuck...
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them have their war in iran and that is their problem with chuck hagel. >> i think our brains are connected, i say that again joy, you're so smart. because i agree with your words as you speak them, they're brilliant. i'm serious. i'm patronizing, i think you're unbelievable. i keep hearing my brain talk. thank you, joy reed. thank you david cornyn. >>> coming up, it's hoil's last d hillary clinton's last day in the state department. the first day of the rest of her life, it may well include a run for president in 2016. there are plenty of democrats waiting for her to say i do. >>> also, men behaving badly. we showed you john mccain and lindsay graham's rude behavior. and they're hardly alone. the lesson that many of the gop seem to have learned from 2012 is, if you want to stop losing elections, just keep doing exactly what you've been doing. >>> the documentary "the gatekeepers" a fascinating look at the members of israel's security agency. the interesting job of dealing with palestinians in the occupied territories. they're a lot more like barack obama than like benjamin netanyahu. >>> l
them have their war in iran and that is their problem with chuck hagel. >> i think our brains are connected, i say that again joy, you're so smart. because i agree with your words as you speak them, they're brilliant. i'm serious. i'm patronizing, i think you're unbelievable. i keep hearing my brain talk. thank you, joy reed. thank you david cornyn. >>> coming up, it's hoil's last d hillary clinton's last day in the state department. the first day of the rest of her life, it may...
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this was basically chuck hagel supporting the president's policy on iran containment. after he says that, he goes, by the way, i just have been handed the note. i meant to say obviously his position on containment. we don't have a position on containment, so i recognize i had more attention paid to my words the last eight weeks than i ever thought possible. what i thought was interesting here is containment was the framework for 50 years of american foreign policy and the cold war. >> containment is our policy on iran. we've been containing iran. that's exactly what we've been doing and it's exactly what we would do if they got nuclear weapons. hagel has been consistent. since 2001, he has advocated direct talks with iran. the thing that distinguishes him is he's somebody who likes to listen. he likes to ask questions. i had a trip to iran in december 2001. i was asked to come in and brief him on this trip. it was a snowstorm in washington, d.c. congress was essentially shut down. i went through the snow. there he was and he asked me questions for an hour about things
this was basically chuck hagel supporting the president's policy on iran containment. after he says that, he goes, by the way, i just have been handed the note. i meant to say obviously his position on containment. we don't have a position on containment, so i recognize i had more attention paid to my words the last eight weeks than i ever thought possible. what i thought was interesting here is containment was the framework for 50 years of american foreign policy and the cold war. >>...
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now over chuck hagel, this could be the next battle. it's a big question of whether republicans are really spoiling for that kind of unprecedented fight here. >> but we have john mccain. any other prominent republicans who may not vote for him? >> you've got about i'd say a dozen republicans right now who have come out and said they are actively opposing his nomination. none of them have said so far whether they would actually be willing to block it. the republican leader in the senate mitch mcconnell has held off right now on saying if that's an option for them. it's a big question. i think you've seen a lot of other nominees get blocked. certainly richard cordray, the appointee for the consumer financial protection bureau is not going anywhere right now. but the opposition to this kind of appointment of chuck hagel, someone who i think a lot of voters throughout the country weren't as aware of like someone like susan rice ace different question here. >> speaking of john mccain moving on to you, alice, let's take a look at these tense
now over chuck hagel, this could be the next battle. it's a big question of whether republicans are really spoiling for that kind of unprecedented fight here. >> but we have john mccain. any other prominent republicans who may not vote for him? >> you've got about i'd say a dozen republicans right now who have come out and said they are actively opposing his nomination. none of them have said so far whether they would actually be willing to block it. the republican leader in the...
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strong and safe and chuck hagel has been through worse. believe me, he has seen much more incoming than at that hearing. >> republican strategist, good to see you. thank you. >> good to see you. >> still ahead on the saturday afternoon, the latest on the scandal around the top u.s. senator. first, on this date, an announcement that led to the moment so many had been calling for. eventually to the end of apartheid. you are watching msnbc the place for politics. but don't worry, he'll find someone else. ♪ who's that lady? ♪ who's that lady? ♪ sexy lady, who's that lady? [ female announcer ] swiffer 360 dusters extender cleans high and low, with thick all around fibers that attract and lock up to two times more dust than a feather duster. swiffer gives cleaning a whole new meaning. and now swiffer dusters refills are available with the fresh scent of gain. i just served my mother-in-law your chicken noodle soup but she loved it so much... i told her it was homemade. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my re
strong and safe and chuck hagel has been through worse. believe me, he has seen much more incoming than at that hearing. >> republican strategist, good to see you. thank you. >> good to see you. >> still ahead on the saturday afternoon, the latest on the scandal around the top u.s. senator. first, on this date, an announcement that led to the moment so many had been calling for. eventually to the end of apartheid. you are watching msnbc the place for politics. but don't worry,...
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chuck hagel did that as a sergeant in vietnam. if confirmed, chuck hagel will do it again. this time not before a platoon but before every man and woman and their families in the armed services, you will lead them, and they will know in their hearts, we have one of our own. you're on your own. good luck. \[laughter] >> well, we thank you both, senator warner, senator nunn, for your powerful introductions. i just wish every member of the senate, every american could have heard, and i hope will hear and read about what you said here today about chuck hagel. and i also notice there's another former senator who is a member of that band of brothers who is with us today. i just noticed in the audience max cleland is here and i want to welcome you, max, an old friend of the committee and of the senate and of the nation. so let me now call on senator hagel, and senator warner, senator nunn, again, thank you for your introductions and you are free to get back to your lives or to stay as you wish. >> thank you. >> senator hagel. >> thank you, chairman levin, ranking member inhofe and
chuck hagel did that as a sergeant in vietnam. if confirmed, chuck hagel will do it again. this time not before a platoon but before every man and woman and their families in the armed services, you will lead them, and they will know in their hearts, we have one of our own. you're on your own. good luck. \[laughter] >> well, we thank you both, senator warner, senator nunn, for your powerful introductions. i just wish every member of the senate, every american could have heard, and i hope...
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imagine chuck hagel. can he relate to them and try to do something about it. we understand who understands the troops. >> he is he not being confirmed to be secretary of veterans affairs. i think that would actually be probably a position he would be very well suited to. but, this is a man who his statement that he voted for the war in iraq, then he said the surge would be the biggest foreign policy blunder our military, our country had ever seen. that obviously was not the case. all he had to say was that was a mistake. i shouldn't have said that i was i don't think. he couldn't really bring himself to say that clearly. >> not perfect. the best choice, courageous man the troops will love him. >> congressman, it's great to he see you and the president certainly is very confident of that confirmation. and plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. jill biden joining the list of people who think more gun control will not mean fewer pass shootings. another american embassy attacked by terrorists. we have details. weep hope you stay tuned for re. >>
imagine chuck hagel. can he relate to them and try to do something about it. we understand who understands the troops. >> he is he not being confirmed to be secretary of veterans affairs. i think that would actually be probably a position he would be very well suited to. but, this is a man who his statement that he voted for the war in iraq, then he said the surge would be the biggest foreign policy blunder our military, our country had ever seen. that obviously was not the case. all he...
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chuck hagel. if chuck hagel will take the job right now, god bless him. whoever secretary of defense, they are going to go through this constricting budget, implement things like females in combat, which i agree with, but in lamenting will be hard. something will come to head with iran in the next four years mathematically. it's going to be very difficult for years. i think he's got great background to bring to it. his time in vietnam is useful because it gives you context. the most important thing is if he and president obama are a good team, that's what matters. i don't much worry that policy positions because he's not going to be a policymaker. but the fact they feel they can be a good team to me is important. unless the president nominates somebody who's in my mind unqualified, i tend to think a leader should get who they want because we'll hold him responsible. >> thank you, general mcchrystal. we have to stop now. can't not [applause] >> next, set her effect on the otb in santa fe to discuss his book "blood and thunder: the epic story of kit carson
chuck hagel. if chuck hagel will take the job right now, god bless him. whoever secretary of defense, they are going to go through this constricting budget, implement things like females in combat, which i agree with, but in lamenting will be hard. something will come to head with iran in the next four years mathematically. it's going to be very difficult for years. i think he's got great background to bring to it. his time in vietnam is useful because it gives you context. the most important...
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. >> what's fascinating is when they announced the trio of nominations, john kerry at state, chuck hagel at defense and john brennan for cia, i remember being on the show and saying i think hagel will be the most controversial and brennan may well be the least controversial, brennan or kerry. i think -- i still don't think his nomination is imperiled. i would say you have it right. what you are now going to have in his confirmation hearing is an extended conversation about drone strikes, how we use them, how should we use them, how should congress be consulted, should the american public be -- it's going to be sort of a broader thematic discussion. and look, the fact is the white house -- if the white house would have preferred mikeis cough break the news two weeks after john brennan rather than three days before his confirmation hearing, absolutely. >> that pesky mikeis cough. you never know when he'll break the stories. susan page, ron widen is the leader of the rebellious group on the senate intelligence committee, not the chair, dianne feinstein who we'll be talking to tomorrow. but
. >> what's fascinating is when they announced the trio of nominations, john kerry at state, chuck hagel at defense and john brennan for cia, i remember being on the show and saying i think hagel will be the most controversial and brennan may well be the least controversial, brennan or kerry. i think -- i still don't think his nomination is imperiled. i would say you have it right. what you are now going to have in his confirmation hearing is an extended conversation about drone strikes,...
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no one can argue chuck hagel's experienced. i know that chuck hagel is the right man to lead the department of defense through this very difficult economic time. he's a man that will uphold the constitution and do what is right for this country. our military and the american people need chuck hagel to be the secretary of defense. mr. speaker, before closing i must say that in my many years here in washington of 18 years, i have never known a person with more integrity than senator hagel. and i hope that the senatelogical pass on the confirmation of chuck hagel to be the secretary of defense because america needs him, our military needs him, and it's time for people of integrity to step up and help us fix the problem facing our nation. and he will speak freely and honestly about what is needed to keep a strong military. i yield back the balance of my time. sara: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from illinois, mr. lipinski, for five minutes. mr. lipinski: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i rise to
no one can argue chuck hagel's experienced. i know that chuck hagel is the right man to lead the department of defense through this very difficult economic time. he's a man that will uphold the constitution and do what is right for this country. our military and the american people need chuck hagel to be the secretary of defense. mr. speaker, before closing i must say that in my many years here in washington of 18 years, i have never known a person with more integrity than senator hagel. and i...
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. -- chuck hagel. here is a look. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i'm pleased to see an old friend and senator warner and the members of this committee who have contributed so much to our nation's defense. senator hagel, members of this committee will raise questions reflecting concerns with your policy positions. our concerns pertain to the quality of your professional judgment and your worldview on critical areas of national security, including security in the middle east. with that in mind, let me begin with your opposition to the surge in iraq. 2006 republicans lost the election and we began the surge and you wrote a piece in "the washington post." in 2007, you said it does not in the national interest to have military involvement. there was an exchange with secretary rice and the foreign relations committee after some nonsense about syria crossing the border into iran because of the surge. there is a reference to cambodia in 1970. you said "when he said he motioned, the kind of policies the president is talking about is very dangerous. as a mat
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do you think this is going to go-- >> he looks good. >> in the direction of chuck hagel or john kerry? >> it really depends how he does. for the record, i disagree that chuck hagel and john kerry are the a-team of american policy, quite the opposite. it's possible that they leaked it to draw the attention on this, if that's what they did, it worked. but and look, i think he wants to spend all of his team defending the drone campaign because that seems to be what the media is interested in and it's positive ground for him. he's got 83% backing of the american public including republicans and democrats, simon and me. so, i think he wants to focus on that. i think we really ought to be asking him questions about enhanced interrogation, about benghazi and also about all of these leaks and the obama administration hasn't been leaking, it's been a torrent of information that's coming out and we now know that several senior obama administration officials are under criminal investigation by the fbi and the justice department being questioned, including apparently john brennan has been questio
do you think this is going to go-- >> he looks good. >> in the direction of chuck hagel or john kerry? >> it really depends how he does. for the record, i disagree that chuck hagel and john kerry are the a-team of american policy, quite the opposite. it's possible that they leaked it to draw the attention on this, if that's what they did, it worked. but and look, i think he wants to spend all of his team defending the drone campaign because that seems to be what the media is...
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. >> and now former senator chuck hagel expresses his thoughts on the war in iraq and says that more should have been done leading up to the war to determine whether it was the right action to take. he also examines america's position in the world and its future from an economic and environmental perspective. this is just over an hour. >> honored to have an opportunity to be with you and in this house and your guests and those who believe in a better world and how to make a better world because as i look around this room, i see so many people who have devoted their careers and their lives to making a better world. and to all of you, thank you. we, all of us in the global community, appreciate it. and most of you are cometting to make those -- continuing to make those same kinds of contributions. nice to see you again, thank you very much, and to some of our current ambassadors who
. >> and now former senator chuck hagel expresses his thoughts on the war in iraq and says that more should have been done leading up to the war to determine whether it was the right action to take. he also examines america's position in the world and its future from an economic and environmental perspective. this is just over an hour. >> honored to have an opportunity to be with you and in this house and your guests and those who believe in a better world and how to make a better...